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Oradour-Sur-Glane

n°58674
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 18:27:52  profil
 

Reprise du message précédent :
Doch die Männer waren da bereits erschossen.
(Während die-jenige SS bei der Kirche nach der Explosion fassungslos waren, schoss die-jenige SS bei den Männern wild drauf los.)

n°58675
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 18:40:56  profil
 

Zuvor hatte Diekmann den SS-Leuten, welche bei den Männern des Dorfes standen, erklärt:
'Bei jedem Anschein von Feind-Handlung die Männer wegschießen'.
Für den Umstand, dass es einen solchen, laut-starken 'Vorfall' wirklichen geben würde, hatte er bereits gesorgt.

n°58676
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 19:06:57  profil
 

Als die SS auch noch die Frauen und Kinder in der Kirche erschoss, war klar, dass die SS-Leute nicht mehr ungeschoren aus der Sache herauskommen würden.

n°58677
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 19:21:01  profil
 

Im Wappen des Dorfes ist ein durch Feuer von unten her bedrohtes und durch zwei Dolche von oben her angegriffenes, aufgestelltes Kreuz zu sehen.
Was hat sich bloß der Heraldiker dabei gedacht?!
(war wohl nicht ganz bei-trost?!)

n°58678
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 19:33:27  profil
 

Stange coat of arms of the village!
Pro cross or versus cross?!
(Are we allowed to choose one or another interpretation?!
Must we choose?!
Or are we not allowed to choose - like the inocents are not allowed to controle their 'matyrdom'?!)

n°58679
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 19:49:48  profil
 

Das Problem für die SS-Leute entwickelte sich eigentlich erst dann ungeheuerlich, als sie - auf Befehl Diekmanns hin - auch auf die Frauen und Kinder zu schießen begannen.
Damit war klar, dass sie aus dieser Sache nicht mehr 'ungeschoren' davon kommen würden.
(Die Männer des Dorfes waren eher 'Neben-Sache'; wieder diese unselige Kirche!)
Lösung: Sich an der Front 'verheizen' lassen.
Wer dies von den SS-Leuten zu überleben wagte, der hatte ein 'Nach-Spiel' zu befürchten.

n°58680
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 20:07:07  profil
 

The proceeding history has evolved from initially an ordinary village with ordinary inhabitants via a church under havy attack by 'evil' with 'martyrs' in it into a cross 'of pain' - an symbol for this Jesus-Christ.
(But: What if you are not a christian - and if you don't want to be transfered to one?!)

n°58681
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 20:20:07  profil
 

Die Kunst ist es, eins und eins zusammenzählen zu können.
Auf diese 'Kunst' verstanden sich die SS-Leute unter Diekmanns Führung 'etwas' zu spät.
(Ur-Feinde des 'Erlösers' - wider Willen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Alptraum-Prozess in Aussicht.)

n°58682
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 20:31:02  profil
 

Dieser Anders Brevik gilt nicht als 'Ur-Feind' des 'Erlösers'.
Warum denn auch?!
Hat er nicht auf mancherlei Weise jedem klar-gemacht, aus welchem
'Holz' er 'geschnitzt ist'?!
- nämlich aus dem-jenigen, aus welchem man leicht Kruzifixe schnitzt.
(Luxus-Knast - statt 'Helden-Tod'.)
(In hundert Jahren wird es vielleicht heißen:
"Andrus Brevicus - Ein Heiliger, welcher dutzenden Feinden trotzte und sie mit Hilfe des 'Heiligen Geistes' zerschmetterte. - Sein Fest-Tag ist ..." )
(Der Christ Israel Shamir leugnet, dass A. Brevik Christ ist - aber wie lange wird er noch leugnen?!)

n°58683
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 20:58:11  profil
 

Now we have come rather close to the 'great question' - namely:

Intented Diekmann to show that the SS is the arch-enemy of christianity
1) because Diekmann was an arch-enemy of christianity
or
2) because Diekmann was an arch-christian
?

The appropriate answer is:
Both answers are the both sides of the same medal!

(This means:
If you do unspeakable evil, but confess some time later,
then you are a christian;
but you were before yor confession already a christian-candidate - not a full christian yet)

n°58684
ARCANVS
Posté le 15-12-2011 à 21:28:26  profil
 

Everthing someone does in purpose of promoting christianity is an
christian act - whatever he does or thinks about his deed.

Oradour-Sur-Glane is today a christian symbol.

Therefore Diekmann acted like a christian.

n°58685
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 01:45:06  profil
 

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De-Gaulle's Cross of Lorraine

n°58686
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 02:01:22  profil
 

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n°58687
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 04:01:14  profil
 

Diekmann hadn't got any special killing
orders from his superiors.

Before he and the SS entered the village
Dekmann 'knew' in his insane brain
that all inhabitants 'are to be killed'.

And there was never a rational reason to think so.

He had choosen a village
where he could be sure not finding
any incrimination against the inhabitans.
(A village full of 'saints'.)

No reason to kill.

He had only to manage to prepare an 'incident'
after that he could command his SS-men to kill.

He drove the children and women into church,
because this 'holy place' he chose being the
'unescapable grave' for them.

He positioned the men of the village out of the church
not willing them enter the church
- because men in times of war are no 'innocents'
disqualifing them for 'real martyrdom'.

When all was prepared for fast killing
he let happen the 'incident'.

A false-flag-christian.

n°58688
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 04:20:48  profil
 

De-Gaulle = DER-GALLIER = DER-KELTE.
(3 verwandte Wörter)

So leicht lässt sich das keltische Kreuz auffinden.

n°58689
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 05:08:38  profil
 

Seen from christian perspective
'Oradour-Sur-Glane After'
is clearly to prefere
to 'Oradour-Sur-Glane Before'.

The reason is that
Diekmann tried to change
the cold dead stones of 'the church'
into the human flesh of 'the church' -
in that way how this Jesus wanted to be
flesh and church 'in personal union'.

And did not come 'our superstar' from Nazaret
which was in ancient times
nothing else but a necropoleis
made of cold dead stone?!

The so-called 'The Imitation of Christ' -
in the manner of Diekmann.

n°58690
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 05:31:18  profil
 

Look at the coat of arms of the village!
And then you will see ...
no Jesus on his cross,
where he should hang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
Now - I am afraid - he is walking among us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

n°58691
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 05:47:06  profil
 

To be a christian is a 'heavy job'.
(I mean the 'hardcore-christians' - not the love-is-in-the-air-christians. )

Such guys like Diekmann or Anders Brevik instinctively knew,
what 'true christianity' commands to them:

1) insanity plus
2) mass murder plus
3) idiotic lies for the soft-christians.

n°58692
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 05:57:35  profil
 

What I fear for us
is the terrible 'second comming'
of 'our univited saviour'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
(which is a core-item of this Zion-Chistianity
circulating in 'Jesus-Land' aka USA)

n°58693
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 06:16:28  profil
 

Could it be that
Diekmann managed to open 'Jesus's handcuffs'
- aka nails of the cross?!

Could it be that
he burned 'his coffin'
- aka the wooden cross?!

Could it be
that he broke 'his prison'
- aka stony church?!

(I don't hope so.)

n°58694
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 06:37:26  profil
 

Diekmann happend to be eliminated by
his former mates of the SS at the front.
So he died officially the death of a 'soldier'.

But this 'soldier' is a real christian martyr
being killed bei the 'evil' SS for
his 'good' christian belief
which he 'demonstrated' in 'Oradour-Sur-Glane'.

A Soldier of Christ.

n°58695
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 07:02:54  profil
 

Christianity is thought to be
a form of spiritual cannibalism
- this is best known.
(The Hocuspocus with bloody wine and meat-bread -
christian insanity is 'at work'.)

A kind of 'practical implementation'
of this pervert idea
can be found in the circumstances of the
mass murder of Oradour-Sur-Glane.
Thereby the real fire ate the flesh,
while the bottom drank the blood of real humans
- no illusion any more.

n°58696
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 18:18:04  profil
 

Diekmann can be called a 'devil'
which is not a proper attribute.
The question is rather,
for whom he has been working for!

He missed the command
"You shall not murder!".
But this is a part of the 'treaty'
between the judaistic god named 'Jahwe'
and the people called Judaists.

Neither Jahwe is the christian
'junior-god' Jesus or a 'god-father'
(whoever this 'guy' will be)
nor the Judaists are equal to the christians.

Therefore the above command
is not valid for christians
- like Diekmann one was.

The alleged connection
between the 10 Judaistic commands
and christianity is one of the
bigger lies created for the
Jesus-loves-you-and-me-christi ans.

n°58697
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 18:42:20  profil
 

The fact that the britons and US-americans
bombed German towns
is relatated to following truths:

1) The britons are the 'christian soldiers'
under the 'high command'
of the slaughtering crusader-warrior named 'George'.

2) Baphomet is an ALLY of Jesus
promoting the 'holy' 'special relationship'
between the britons and US-americans.
(You can recognize the face of baphomet
in the stars of the banner of the usa.)

The cross everywhere.

The 'red cross' belongs to the soft-christians
'commanding' them to do the 'good deed'.
But its twin - the cross of mass murder -
is the banner of the hordes
conquering the world
in the name of Jesus.

First Jesus sends his crusader army
and then his 'salvation army'.

Thus Jesus's cross won in the second world war.

n°58698
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 18:58:39  profil
 

The real victims of christ
- namely the inhabitans of Oradour-Sur-Glane -
wer burned alive - because
they were softcore-chistians
which degraded them
in the eyes of the hardcore-christians
to 'sheeps'
- good enough to get slaughtered.

The christian warriors
like Diekmann or Anders Breivik
are very protected by the warlord christ
so that the above fate was spared to them.

The 'common soldiers' of christ - namely
Diekmann's SS-soldiers -
were mildy punished by imrprisonment.

Thus christ knows to devide.

n°58699
ARCANVS
Posté le 16-12-2011 à 21:18:46  profil
 

The chief difference between
Anders Brevik and Diekmann
lies in the different worlds
they lived in at the moment
they decided to
carry out crazy mass murder.

Brevik lived in world of peace
which hinders him to carry out
his mass murder phantasies.
He 'had to' kill by his own.

Diekmann lived in times of war
and during this was able to
attain a military rank of a commander
of a lot of SS-soldiers.

The existing war did
not much influence Diekmann's
decisions whether or where
or when or whom to strike deadly.

Their main thing was
to strike the most harmless ones.

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